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    Re: M14s: I may have a pair

    Talked to Bill @ GPA today. He said there's something "definitely not right" with that woofer. I'll be packing it up and sending Monday.
    Until then, I'll be playing with my newest tool in the arsenal:

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    I picked up a Behringer Ultradrive Pro. Wow. This thing changes everything. It's amazing to me how much different the sounds are with the different filter types, and slope of the crossovers. I have a lot to learn...
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    Re: M14s: I may have a pair

    OK - I've taken the plunge and got a test rig up and running.
    Here are some of the results - you guys go easy on me - I'm a noob on this measurement stuff.

    All measurements done in-cabinet, on-axis, and near-field (mic right up next to the driver):

    Cabinet 1 Woofer:

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    Cabinet 2 Woofer:

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    Cabinet 1 HF Driver:

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    Cabinet 2 HF Driver:

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    Definitely looks like I have a problem with one of the 902's, or maybe I screwed up the measurement somehow.
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    Altec Model 14 Frequency Response Measurements

    Evolving the technique:

    Cabinet #1:

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    Cabinet #2:

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    Altec Model 14 Cabinet Plans

    Since I was taking apart the cabinets to pull the speakers out to send off to GPA, I did some physical measurements of the dimensions of the Model 14 cabinet. I couldn't find a drawing of this cabinet online anywhere so I sketched up a quick drawing:

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    There are more details needed to actually construct on of these cabinets. Perhaps I'll add to this if the need arises.
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    Altec Model 14 Cabinet Repairs

    OK, while I wait for the woofers to be "GPA'd", I needed to work on these cabinets.
    Several things are in obvious need of repair. I started with the base cabinets:

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    They all have some refinishing issues, but there are some structural problems too. First off, there was a woofer mounting bolt missing. Turns out that there was a big chuck of particle board broken away and the tee-nut was gone as well. In case you're wondering, the bolts are 1/4-20 x 1 in. (finished in a lovely dark color). The tee-nut obviously is a 1/4-20 thread (more on the parts later). First thing was to take some industrial strength wood filler and patch the hole. You can see right there at six-oclock, this is after 3 applications and sanding in-between. It actually filled in pretty nicely:

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    There was a similar issue with one of the cabinet tops where the horns mount. One of the horn mounting bolts was just turning the tee-nut. Turns out it was cross-threaded like never-before-seen. I asked Bill @ GPA for some advice and finally got both the bolt and the tee-nut out without damaging the horn. The repair job was similar to the base cabinet - wood filler, sand, repeat.

    The snazzy knurled bolts for the horn (and the crossover) are socket head bolts (you can find these at home depot online - not available in retail stores near me anyway). I couldn't find the woofer mounting bolts anywhere, so I figured what I would do is convert them all to socket head bolts so I can just use the same tool to remove the horns and the woofers, plus they look very cool. So here is the hardware I'm using for the repairs:

    Per speaker -
    (6) #10-32 x 1" steel socket cap screws (MR931 horn bolts)
    (8) 1/4-20 x 1" steel socket cap screws (Woofer bolts)
    (1) 1/4-20 Brad hole tee-nut
    (1) #10-32 Brad hole tee-nut
    (8) Shepherd 1-1/8 in. Plastic Base Nail-On Cushion Glides (for the foot)

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    With the holes patched, and the new tee-nuts installed, it was time to do the re-finishing. I scanned this site for the recommended stuff. Howards Restor-a-Finish gets the nod. I also picked up the Howards Feed-N-Wax. Let me tell you, this stuff is unreal! Talk about easy, no-mess, and fantastic results. I'll let the pictures tell the story. Here is the top-cabinet before I started - lots of water stains, sun damage, etc.:

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    Then comes the Restor-A-Finish (I'll start calling "Jesus in a can") you just slather this stuff on and rub it in for a few minutes with a soft cloth:

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    Twenty minutes later you just wipe it down:

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    As if it didn't look dramatically improved enough already, just rub in some of the Feed-N-Wax ("Apostles in a bottle"):

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    Holy divine furniture re-finisher, batman! Unbelievable. This stuff is highly recommended... A+!

    OK, on to the pedicure. The feet of these 30+ year olds were looking rough:

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    I figured what I'd do is tear off the crappy particle board feet, and replace them with hardwood. The nearby Lowes had some nice oak 2x2's...that'll do just great. I cut them to size (18" x 14" in case you're wondering), glued and screwed. Here they are in the jig waiting for the glue to dry:

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    Stay tuned, as the epic M14 refurb continues...and thanks for watching.
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    Re: Altec Model 14 Cabinet Repairs

    Wow--great job Allen! Those 14's are coming along nicely. They're sure to look as great as they sound now......
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    Re: Altec Model 14 Cabinet Repairs

    That truly is a miracle in a can!!! Those look very much like brand new.

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